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anthro vs. furry by HarmonicSonic anthro vs. furry by HarmonicSonic
Not trying to start a fight with any of my anthro or furry friends, but the haters who keep lumping everyone into one group are getting on my nerves.

11/11/2010 - Edited the stamp to make it fit with $zilla774's template. Say something if you like the old one better.

If you don't want me to say thank you, then don't fave it. If you accuse me of not looking at your profile, I will turn right around and accuse you of not reading the artist comments.
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AJInu-Okami Featured By Owner Jul 4, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
It's like saying Chuck Jones and his crew were furry artists because they made Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry (after Fred Quimby). I like drawing and writing about anthros and humans, so I don't get why people try to think when doing something with anthros you are instant-furry.
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Hi-TuVy Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Hey, just curious, on witch category does Sonic fall?
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've actually never given much thought to where it stands.  I'd probably put it more in the anthro category, mainly because of the style and differences among the fandom, but it'd be hard to say.
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Hi-TuVy Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yeah same here, he's a humanized animal, not the other way around. Thanks for replying!
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
You've just described a furry.
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Hi-TuVy Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
Furry=Human that's been animalized.
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
It goes BOTH ways.
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Hi-TuVy Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Student Digital Artist
For you maybe.
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
No, that's how it is. It goes both ways. Fact. You clearly don't know the definition for anthropomorphism or the definition for furry.
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EllipticalPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
People always confuse the two. Anthro can mean anything from animals to objects being humanized. Though the "furry" community has it bad. To me, anthro (in the terms of animal anthro) is no different from furry. "Furry" gets a bad rep because they confuse it for "yiff" which is furry porn. :\ In terms of technicality, anthro (in terms of animals) and furry are the exact same thing, except "anthro" seems to be a more polished word for it. I use the term anthro but just because I know it means the same thing.
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 8, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
There is no difference between yiff and sex. They mean the same thing.
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autisticfazbear Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2014  New member Hobbyist General Artist
No, they don't. "Yiff" comes from the sound of foxes mating, and therefore has been derived to mean furry porn, which IMO is just spoiling the fandom. Sex is just mating of any animal, humans included.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Well, it's like I've said; the way I see it, "furry" is a very specific type of anthro. Even giving human qualities to animals with fur isn't necessarily "furry". "Furry" doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the subject matter - it's more a matter of the art style. For that matter (since you brought up the subject of porn), I'd say it's entirely possible to have pornographic anthro art that isn't "furry" - I can't necessarily give any examples (I steer clear of porn when it can be avoided), but I'm sure there are some out there.

Also, bear in mind that I was young and stupid when I made this stamp ^^;
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EllipticalPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah, I understand. Art that is labelled as furry tends to be more cartoonish and less realistic (such as wearing clothes, having styled hair, etc) than "anthro" art.

Hahaha, well I wouldn't say stupid XD I had the urge yesterday to comment on a lot of things and this was one of them, though I have a feeling I have commented before...who knows. ^^;
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"Yeah, I understand. Art that is labelled as furry tends to be more cartoonish and less realistic"

Wrong.
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TheFreebornFanatic Featured By Owner Feb 7, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
"Yeah, I understand. Art that is labelled as furry tends to be more cartoonish and less realistic"
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that, to an extent, it's also a bit of a lifestyle difference, too. (And I'm not even talking about a sexual aspect, because that doesn't always figure into it - in point of fact, I'd guess that it usually doesn't).

Hopefully you won't take these as stereotypes - my brother and his fiancee are both furries, so this is mainly based on seeing that - but it's been my observation that "Furry" is a much more communal, almost tribal, sort of lifestyle. In addition to creating furry artwork, furries almost always have some kind of furry persona they see for themselves. They hang out with other furries (often with similar personas) and discuss everyday issues in a furry context. They RP with other furries - again, often doing normal, human things but with a furry sort of attitude - and use furry lingo (e.g. "mate" as opposed to "boyfriend/girlfriend")

Again, I'm not saying any of this to demean furries. I think it's a fascinating lifestyle, even though it doesn't really appeal to me personally. I don't usually talk about it in these terms. Most people get upset when I differentiate anthro from furry by saying that "furry" is more of a lifestyle. You tend to be a bit more reasonable, though.
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Alon98 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Furry is not a lifestyle for me. It's a hobby, and the art I do.
You are stereotyping. It's no wonder people get upset over it.
To me, people who draw anthro animals are furries. Either that or I'm not a furry.
If you ask me, it's just people trying to avoid the negative stereotypes associated with furries by calling themselves something different. I find that act kind of offensive. Like you don't want to be associated with a bunch of freaks like us...

But I can't blame you, because I used to be the same way. Then I learned that I pretty much AM a furry, and that I should stop trying to separate myself.
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Silverwolf-1ofmany Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
Bingo! Someone finally reaches the center of the shrubbery maze! ;)
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Alon98 Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Heheh. I see it this way because I was once the same way. And years before that, I hated furries and would regularly troll FA.
Ironic, no?
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Silverwolf-1ofmany Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2014  Hobbyist Photographer
About like me with mushrooms...used to hate them, now can't get enough xP
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I've got nothing at all against furries.  They're no more "freakish" than anyone else, but I stand by my comments. It's not intended to be a stereotype, and it really has nothing to do with avoiding the negative.  My brother is a furry, and all the furries I've known who refer to themselves as such adopt it as part of their lifestyle (and I don't mean that in a bad way; there is a very communal, almost tribal, aspect to interaction among furries).

And, bottom line, anthro artists often call themselves "something different" because there is a difference (if there weren't, we wouldn't have two different words for it).  Anthropomorphic art is a much broader, much older term, and while furry art is one type of anthropomorphic art, the terms are not completely interchangeable.
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Alon98 Featured By Owner Dec 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
They're not, I know. The way I see it - one is more specific than the other.
But to draw anthromorphic animal-people and try to deny that it's "furry" art seems a little silly to me.
Like saying "This is soda, not Coca-Cola."
To me, Furry means art of anthromorphic animal-people, usually the kind with fur.
Either that or I haven't been a furry for years.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Dec 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It's not silly if the soda really is something other than Coke.  And to be sure, there is soda that is very similar to Coke.  But try to tell a Coke fan that Coke the same thing as Pepsi, and you'll see what I'm talking about.  The ancient Egyptians (who are known for their gods represented by "animal-people") would not have identified themselves as furries.  Anubis, for example, is an anthropomorphic jackal.  And while he's a very popular subject for furries, that was not the original concept.  The differences are subtle, but they are there.
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EllipticalPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 25, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
I don't know any furries personally, but I have heard of that, pretty fascinating. Yes, I suppose it would make more sense if in that lifestyle to use "furry" instead of "anthro" given as, well, anthro just means humanized. :XD:

Very good point you make there. I know a few friends of mine who have fursuit heads of their fursonas. I don't consider myself a furry, but that's pretty cool. :D My "fursona" is male, so I don't really know if that would count. :lol: That and I also have many others to expand my attention to.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The thing is, the pictures I see of Jaret don't have the "furry" look to them. For one thing, there's a sort of feral quality to it (by that I mean less anthro and more just animal) that isn't normally seen in furry artwork.
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EllipticalPuppy Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah, no offense to furry art but much of it, though still very good, is very simplified and has a general quality to it. Such as, you wouldn't be able to tell, anatomy wise, the difference between a grey or an Ethiopian wolf. I'm just talking about much of it, not all. I follow a lot of furry and anthro art. I just like to be very realistic and specific with anatomy with even the tiniest difference of species (its tough distinguishing between American grey wolves and Eurasian wolves, but I try). I suppose I love the feral look too much to make him too human xD
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I follow that kind of art quite a bit, too. If you look through my favorites, you'll see a bunch of it - mostly anthro, but there are a few furry pieces in there, too. Mainly because I love foxes.
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binarystep Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I draw a lot of anthro characters, but I'm not really a part of the Furry fandom. :shrug: I like all sorts of art, so I don't call myself "___ artist". I just draw what I feel like.
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CrimsonHussar Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012  Student Artist
I call this "being in denial".

The lady doth protest too much, methinks!
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If you say so.
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CrimsonHussar Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2012  Student Artist
Oh yes. I do.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Good for you.
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CrimsonHussar Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2012  Student Artist
yep.
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DawnSentinel Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2012
Banned. Ha ha.
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TheStrangerous Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
So far no one called me that way.

But it sucks double for me, cause my persona is equine :(
And I sincerely do not wanna be also compared to "abusive pony lovers".
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, but none of your work bears any remote resemblance to MLP. If people are thinking that just because of equine-themed anthro, then their comments are probably not even worth replying to. That's a big generalization, even for haters - though I guess nothing should surprise me at this point.
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TheStrangerous Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, guess they could even be goats or llamas. And still would be insanely popular show. Heh.

I've seen a picture from an equine artist, she drew a grey pegasus horse with ligh-blonde mane. Everyone started commenting about the obvious character :-\

Aweful timess how we equine lovers must suffer like that :(
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Graeth-Raltharn Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2012
why hate either though
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Abornoth Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Even though i a non-furry and not much of a anthro artiest i still don't get what the big deal is.
I mean really, why all the hate? is it really that big a deal that somebody needs to throw a piss fit about? if one doesn't like it, then stop Looking For It! This Is The Freaking Internet, Go Find Something productive to do with your time rather than telling somebody what genres you don't like!

*sigh* i know I'm living in a fantasy land, but a man can dream. :shrug:


P.S. sorry for the mini- rant. ^^;
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Kayshae Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
People just need to understand that furries and anthro are just made up characters just like Mickey Mouse and all them.
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Xena-Michele Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I'm so glad you get it. There's a difference between anthro and furry. One isn't necessarily better than the other (though I personally heavily prefer anthro), but they are not the same. And drawing either does not necessarily make someone a furry either. I hate when people assume. No one has accused me of being a furry, but I have friends and know people who have met such accusations and, while it wasn't necessarily offensive to them, it was still untrue, and so it was still unpleasant.
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HarmonicSonic Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I tend to lean toward anthro myself. There are just a lot of misconceptions out there about both genres.
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Xena-Michele Featured By Owner Mar 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Gotcha.
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Status-Endless Featured By Owner Feb 18, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I separate anthro and furry because I consider 'furry' art to be the sexualized version of anthro. But that's just my opinion...xP
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binarystep Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Furry =/= Yiff.
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Status-Endless Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
The reason for my thoughts is that the word furry has been really demoralized as of the late. Seems like a snotty insult...at least to me. :XD:
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